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#2506
30-06-2017, 17h47
Valyrian_Knight01
: Il faut que je pense à t'envoyer le fichier bêta, mais il faut que je me relise avant pour les fôtes, toussa.
Hop, les Croates, fait avec difficulté (et il manque le dernier palier) :
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30-06-2017, 20h32
Merci d'avance, d'autant que j'ai moi même des fautes d'anglais assez énormes à corriger , je m'en suis rendu compte en prenant des screens.
Bref , à part ça :
Spoiler:
Hello guys ! We are back for a new RIRSEI Dev Diary !
Today, we will focus on a major change added by this mod on an extremely important set of events of the Middle Ages which have been totally left over by the vanilla : the Investiture Controversy.
(Also excuse the errors of translation and the grammatical mistakes in the screens, they will be taken care of ASAP)
To a newcommer, the Investiture Controversy is a relatively minor set of events of the Middle Ages, especially at the time of such massive events like Crusades or the Viking Age or the Reconquista . But what was really the Investiture Controversy ?
You see, back in the 11th century and prior, the Papal power was relatively weak . The Church was often subservient to the various states, and even the Pope was merely symbolc in his role of Leader of Christendom. In fact, he was often subservient to the Emperor (who thinks of himself as the Roman Emperor, the Rex Mundi, the Ruler of the World, as we saw in the first dev Diary). The Popes were even sometimes directly named by the Emperors if needed .
Thus, the power of the Pope was weak, and often the various monarchs (especially the Emperor) named the bishops in their realm , granting them their investiture as priests. It allowed to name loyal (since their power came from the monarch) subjects at the head of vast swathes of land , rather than the unreliable feudal vassals.
However, by the 10th century, things changed. The Popes strenghtened their power on their Church . A time of reformation has come, and soon the Pope will be a major player in European politics.
In the mod, this time of reformation is announced by event :
https://imgur.com/a/sp0pA
From this point on, the Pope will launch a struggle against the Emperor to outlaw the nomination of bishops by the temporal lords (the so called Investiture Controversy) . But this is merely a pretext. Actually, the Investiture Controversy was a pretext to launch a much more important fight, the struggle between the Church and the State .
You see, the Papal chancellery has fabricated an apocryphal document by the 10th century, the so called "Donation of Constantine" . This fake (but extremely well done) document claims that Constantine Ist (the most revered Emperor in the Middle Ages) gave the Imperial power to the Pope in the West, while he himself ruled from Constantinople in the East . By using this document, the Pope claimed that he was the equal, or even superior in dignity than the Emperor (the supreme temporal ruler). He claimed that in the name of God , all christian monarchs shall be subservient to him.
Thus, the Investiture Controversy was a battle between the temporal head of Christendom, the Emperor, and its spiritual head, the Pope , both claiming to rule Christendom in the name of God and they were superior to each other .
In the mod, after a certain amount of time , an event will fire, exiging that the Emperor concede the victory to the Pope in this conflict.
https://imgur.com/a/uZ2a2
https://imgur.com/a/5GUlI
https://imgur.com/a/65qV3
You can choose to oppose him and become excommunicated, or accept and thus losing the struggle .
For the Emperor to win, he must not cede to the exigences of the Pope for 45 years while being excommunicated , which is no small feat , I an assure you . But if he wins, he will get many bonuses, and his authority over Christendom will become unchallenged . But I will let you discover this yourself
If the Emperor cede in a way or another, the Papacy win the Investiture Controversy (as it did historically). The Empire is severly weakened, and the Pope has won the first round of the conflict between Church and State .
https://imgur.com/a/opL65
If the Pope win, catholic monarchs can "swear fealty" to him, become his ""vassals"" , giving them several bonuses but also somewhat restraining them on some matters. But I will let you discover the downsides of this trait.
https://imgur.com/a/RyiU6
https://imgur.com/a/3K1dN
But the struggle between the Church and the State does not end here . The Investiture Controversy was the first step. The Pope will quietly continue to build his theocracy over the catholic Kingdoms - until it is too late.
https://imgur.com/a/qBIZI
But a powerful catholic ruler can decide otherwise and oppose the papal agenda !
https://imgur.com/a/Css9h
However, if none of the catholic Kingdoms were strong enough to resist, the Papacy definitely win the struggle between the Church and the State. He vassalise all the Kings who has the trait "vassal of Saint Peter" and has now a free casus belli on all the independant christians to unite Christendom under his banneer.
In the end , there are several different endings for this struggle - Imperial victory, Papal victory and stalemate. This struggle can definitely change european politics by strenghtening considerably the power of the Pope or the Emperor, but it can also secure the independance of the catholic monarchs towards both .
That is all for today ! Have a nice week !
Credits : Faras, mod leader
Mouchi & Mat, slav... collaborators
And many other, who helped in a way or another.
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01-07-2017, 09h38
Voilà :
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Merci d'avance, d'autant que j'ai moi même des fautes d'anglais assez énormes à corriger , je m'en suis rendu compte en prenant des screens.
Bref , à part ça :
Spoiler:
Hello guys ! We are back for a new RIRSEI Dev Diary !
Today, we will focus on a major change added by this mod on an extremely important set of events of the Middle Ages which have been totally left over by the vanilla : the Investiture Controversy.
(Also excuse the errors of translation and the grammatical mistakes in the screens, they will be taken care of ASAP)
To a newcommer, the Investiture Controversy is a relatively minor set of events of the Middle Ages, especially at the time of such massive events like Crusades or the Viking Age or the Reconquista . But what was really the Investiture Controversy ?
You see, back in the 11th century and prior, the Papal power was relatively weak . The Church was often subservient to the various states, and even the Pope was merely symbolc in his role of Leader of Christendom. In fact, he was often subservient to the Emperor (who thinks of himself as the Roman Emperor, the
Monarcha
Mundi, the Ruler of the World, as we saw in the first dev Diary). The Popes were even sometimes directly named by the Emperors if needed .
Thus, the power of the Pope was weak, and often the various monarchs (especially the Emperor) named the bishops in their realm , granting them their investiture as priests. It allowed to name loyal (since their power came from the monarch) subjects at the head of vast swathes of land , rather than the unreliable feudal vassals.
However, by the
11th
century
(même si ca commence un peu avant)
, things changed. The Popes strenghtened their power on their Church . A time of reformation has come, and soon the Pope will be a major player in European politics.
In the mod, this time of reformation is announced by event :
https://imgur.com/a/sp0pA
From this point on, the Pope will launch a struggle against the Emperor to outlaw the nomination of bishops by the temporal lords (the so called Investiture Controversy) . But this is merely a pretext. Actually, the Investiture Controversy was a pretext to launch a much more important fight, the struggle between the Church and the State .
You see, the Papal chancellery has fabricated an apocryphal document by the 10th century, the so called "Donation of Constantine" . This fake (but extremely well done) document claims that Constantine Ist (the most revered Emperor in the Middle Ages) gave the Imperial power to the Pope in the West, while he himself ruled from Constantinople in the East . By using this document, the Pope claimed that he was the equal, or even superior in dignity than the Emperor (the supreme temporal ruler). He claimed that in the name of God , all christian monarchs shall be subservient to him.
Thus, the Investiture Controversy was a battle between the temporal head of Christendom, the Emperor, and its spiritual head, the Pope , both claiming to rule Christendom in the name of God and they were superior to each other .
In the mod, after a certain amount of time , an event will fire, exiging that the Emperor concede the victory to the Pope in this conflict.
https://imgur.com/a/uZ2a2
https://imgur.com/a/5GUlI
https://imgur.com/a/65qV3
You can choose to oppose him and become excommunicated, or accept and thus losing the struggle.
(et même au-delà, le Pape déliant de leur serment de vassalité les sujets de l'Empereur, représenté par un malus supplémentaire de relation. Les grands vassaux vont en profiter du mieux qu'ils peuvent)
For the Emperor to win, he must not cede to the exigences of the Pope for 45 years while being excommunicated , which is no small feat , I an assure you . But if he wins, he will get many bonuses, and his authority over Christendom will become unchallenged . But I will let you discover this yourself
If the Emperor cede in a way or another, the Papacy win the Investiture Controversy (as it did historically). The Empire is severly weakened, and the Pope has won the first round of the conflict between Church and State .
https://imgur.com/a/opL65
If the Pope win, catholic monarchs can "swear fealty" to him, become his ""vassals"" , giving them several bonuses but also somewhat restraining them on some matters. But I will let you discover the downsides of this trait.
https://imgur.com/a/RyiU6
https://imgur.com/a/3K1dN
But the struggle between the Church and the State does not end here . The Investiture Controversy was the first step. The Pope will quietly continue to build his theocracy over the catholic Kingdoms - until it is too late.
https://imgur.com/a/qBIZI
But a powerful catholic ruler can decide otherwise and oppose the papal agenda !
https://imgur.com/a/Css9h
However, if none of the catholic Kingdoms were strong enough to resist, the Papacy definitely win the struggle between the Church and the State. He vassalise all the Kings who has the trait "vassal of Saint Peter" and has now a free casus belli on all the independant christians to unite Christendom under his
banner
.
In the end , there are several different endings for this struggle - Imperial victory, Papal victory and stalemate. This struggle can definitely change european politics by strenghtening considerably the power of the Pope or the Emperor, but it can also secure the independance of the catholic monarchs towards both .
That is all for today ! Have a nice week !
Credits : Faras, mod leader
Mouchi & Mat, slav... collaborators
And many other, who helped in a way or another.
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01-07-2017, 10h28
D'ailleurs, en parlant de traduction, quelqu'un a gardé les traductions des duchés et royaumes que nous avions faites ?
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#2510
01-07-2017, 11h06
Merci !
D'ailleurs j'ai remarqué deux trois trucs en jouant au mod :
- Les seigneurs musulmans qui détiennent un titre en dehors du Dar al Islam De Jure (ex : en Inde) ont comme titre "Sultan" de la vanilla et non pas "Amîr" .
- Les seigneurs arabes convertis au catholicisme sont toujours nommé "Amîr" (bon j'imagine que c'est dû au fait que ce soit un titre lié à la culture, mais voilà)
- Le titre de Rex Totius Hispaniae , lorsque crée, fait prendre leur indépendance à tous les vassaux :c
- Le script Autokrator ne marche pas :c
Aussi, pour plus tard :
- Nerf les troupes d'évent , notamment des païens (qui peuvent faire pop 5000 troupes de nulle part )
- Virer les compagnies mercenaires vassales musulmanes (Parce que les voir sortir 8000 vassaux mercenaires c'est pas cool :c )
- Nerf les révoltes de paysans et religieuses. Parce qu'ils sont sympa de spawn à 7500 par comté pourri en Irlande, mais c'est pas très historique
Pour l'équilibrage :
Les Républiques marchandes ne vont-elles pas être un peu cheatés ? Avec les villes chrétiennes qui peuvent faire pop trouzemille troupes , n'est ce pas finalement extrêmement avantageux de détenir uniquement des villes comme capitale et possessions ? (Bon après j'imagine que c'est contrebalancé par le fait que les Républiques ne peuvent pas augmenter leur centralisation et donc ont peu de domaine )
Les Républiques marchandes ont accès à un bâtiment spécial nommé "manoir" (ou "Family Palace" en anglais) . C'est un bâtiment qui n'est pas sur la map, qui ressemble à un domaine (
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Family_palace
).
Le truc, c'est qu'une fois upgradé, il peut donné quelque chose comme 1000-1500 soldats (y compris cavalerie lourde, etc) . Vu que tu fais une refonte du système militaire, ne faudrait il pas également changer les effets de ces bâtiments ? (quitte à les remplacer par, je sais pas, des bonus sur la taille de l'escorte ou je ne sais quoi )
C'est tout pour l'instant, les autres script ont l'air de relativement bien marcher
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#2511
01-07-2017, 17h33
Plop , je reviens pour dire que j'ai reçu un message d'un type qui est étudiant en histoire qui veux bien aider pour le mod. Il dit que si tu veux , il peux fouiner à la bibliothèque universitaire pour trouver ses trucs sur l'Éthiopie (par exemple , c'est ce que je lui ai suggéré ), et que son frère peut aider pour l'Inde. Ça pourrait être utile . Tu veux que je lui dise un truc particulier ? Il peut toujours rechercher deux trois trucs pendant que tu finis le système militaire des Balkans
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#2512
01-07-2017, 22h04
Valyrian_Knight01
:
Oui, ne t'inquiète pas et merci, j'ai déjà noté les scripts qui ne marchent pas pour les corriger après (y'en a un ou deux autres en plus en fait...). Et oui, je vais devoir virer les bâtiments qui donnent des soldats (allez sauf peut-être quelques fanti) pour les manoirs des républiques. Les République sont fortes (et riche = des mercos), mais elles manquent de cavalerie lourde.
Pour le second point, tu peux le remercier pour l'attention portée à mon mod, mais encore une fois, j'aime faire les choses petit-à-petit, en suivant mon rythme et mon plan de modding. Lorsque je viendrais à l'Ethiopie, je verrais. Par contre l'Inde, j'ai toujours l'intention de l'oblitérer.
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#2513
03-07-2017, 19h45
Bonjour,
Je ne parviens pas à jouer au mod. Chaque fois, je coche bien la case pour jouer uniquement à ce mod, puis... plus rien. Sur Steam, le jeu passe de "jeu lancé" à plus rien, comme si ça avait quitté. Est-ce que ce bug vous dit quelque chose ?
Merci !
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#2514
05-07-2017, 15h19
Dragoris
Désolé de te répondre en retard : Tu as quelle version du jeu pour commencer ? Si le jeu n'est pas à jour, je crois que le mod ne marche pas.
Sinon, les Serbes :
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#2515
06-07-2017, 21h17
Bulgares, en cours :
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07-07-2017, 15h26
C'est pas mal tout ça dis donc ,ça avance bien.
Tu penseras à m'envoyer les pavés de trucs à traduire quand tu auras le temps ? Faudrait pas l'oublier
D'ailleurs on m'a fait remarquer qu'il faudrait peut être ajouter la même mécanique de couronnement pour le Royaume de Sicile que pour les autres non ? Sachant que la Couronne fut effectivement demandée au Pape pour sécuriser l'indépendance des normands vis à vis des deux Empereurs.
Bon, maintenant :
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Hello guys ! Here is a new RIRSEI Dev Diary !
Today, we will speak about various mechanics about the Western Kingdoms that we eluded in former DDs , namely the Kingdoms of France and the various Spanish monarchies . This is a bit of a filler and not really themed DD, but we have to present thoses features at some point right ?
(Especially when one of them is what gave the name to the mod but I digress)
The Kingdom of France
The Kingdom of France is one of the major Kingdoms of western Europe. The mod thus added several new mechanics to it to better represent the various internal matters of the Kingdom.
First, a King, if he is at least 14 and that Reims is in the Kingdom, can be crowned in the "Sacre" of Reims . This mechanic is similar to the coronation mechanic of CK2+, however, it has (currently) only been added to the Kingdom of France, as the "Sacre" of the King was extremely important and symbolic for the Kingdom, more than in England , Danemark or Castille for exemple .
If a King builds his authority and power strongly enough, he can proclaim that "The King is Emperor in his Realm" (Rex in Regno Suo Est Imperator, aka RIRSEI for those who haven't noticed). He will gain several strong bonuses and make it much more difficult for the Emperor to claim his title (we saw in the first DD that under specific conditions, the Emperor could lay claims on the Kingdom).
https://i.imgur.com/bQxMVKC.jpg
Historically, this proclamation was made by Phillip II "Augustus" of France . He used the Roman Law to claim that since the Emperor's power was weak on France, while the power of the King was strong, the King had the same level of power than an Emperor in his realm, and thus the Emperor had no legitimacy whatsoever to lay claims on France. This trait thus symbolise strenghtening powers of the French monarch and the weakening of the Empire's grasp on French interal affairs.
Furthermore, a King who proclaimed himself Emperor in his realm can himself lay claims on various regions whose De Jure alliegance is not clear enough between the Empire and the Kingdom. He can, for exemple, claim Lyon and Burgundy , and even add them to the De Jure demesne of France if the Emperor is weak or wants to discuss it. Historically, the King of France indeed tried to assert their sovereignity over theses French-speaking lands which answered to the Emperor.
Also note that the cultures have been renamed to how they were historically named : the French culture is now the Langue d'oïl and the Occitan culture is now the Langue d'Oc (talking of "French" language in 900 AD is relatively wrong , what we now recognise as French will appear much later ).
Also, for the 769 start date, the major culture in France is now "Gallo Roman" . It is COMPLETLY wrong to put "Frankish" culture in 769 as French major culture. Nobody except the Frankish aristocracy spoke a word of Frankish language : not the people, not the bishops, etc. They spoke a popular Latin with some Gaulic accent, to put it simply. So now, the new culture is Gallo-Roman, in the Latin cultural group. But it can evolve with vanilla mechanic and becomme Langue d'Oïl/ d'Oc
The Kingdom of Aragon.
Historically, the Kingdom of Aragon was originally a small Duchy, based around Barcelona . But where this Duchy came from ?
You see, when Charlemagne invaded Spain, he set up the Marcha Hispanica, which later came to be under the authorithy of the Kingdom of France. However, during the rule of Hugues Capet, the ruling count was fighting a muslim invasion of his holdings. His pleas for help to his lord were not answered (Hugues was already enduring an invasion from the Emperor). He thus claimed that it was a breaking of the vassalage contract, and became independant.
In the mod, this is represented in the following way : the Duke of Barcelona is independant, but his territory belongs De Jure to France (as of 1066). However, if the Duke manages to claim the Aragonese crown in its entierety, he can proclaim his independance from France, integrating the French De Jure territory in Spain in his own.
https://i.imgur.com/rrSvGc7.jpg
(before)
https://i.imgur.com/ZaWJtlm.jpg
(after)
However, a powerful King of France can use his own jurists to gain claims on what was formerly part of his authority.
https://i.imgur.com/jRZlmiG.jpg
Spanish Kingdoms
The Kingdoms of Spains can get several specific bonuses, inspired by various title held by the Spanish Kings through history :
The King who controls Santiago de Composttella is the protector of the Relics of the famous Santiago Matamoros, giving him some bonuses .
https://i.imgur.com/LShgOJw.jpg
Also, as historically, a powerful, pious , and succesfull King in the Reconquista can ask for an official recognition of his merits by the Pope, gaining the title of Shield of Christendom, or Athleta Christi :
https://i.imgur.com/RNLcyAP.jpg
Thoses symbolises the prestige and the fame coming with such titles and characteristics, with all your neighbours looking at you with envy !
Also, like the cultures in France for the 769 start dates , the Visigothic culture has been wiped out of Spain . As the mod leader said somewhere "Nobody spoke a word of Visigothic language, expect maybe some 9 random guys in Toledo ". So the culture has been renamed "Ibero-Roman" and incorporated in the Latin cultural group.
(As a side note, since the Lombards had paradoxically a much more lasting influence in Italy than either the Visigothic or Frankish cultures, they were left as they are now).
Also, on a totally unrelated note, a new commercial road has been added for the Western world !
http://images.akamai.steamuserconten...5841D59B46606/
It is the famous Northern Italian-Flandres road, the heart of the western medieval economy. You can now build trade posts (renamed "Fair") on it. But be carefull, there can only be 2 provinces (one for each "branch" of the road) with the last tier of trade post (the Great Fair, inspired by the famous Champagne fairs) .
With this road, having the control of the Flandres and Northern Italy is much more important, as historically.
That is all for today ! Have a nice day !
Credits : Faras, mod leader
Mouchi & Mat, slav... collaborators
And many other, who helped in a way or another
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07-07-2017, 16h09
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07-07-2017, 20h34
Valyrian_Knight01
: Oui, oui ne t'inquiète guère. Il faut juste que je relise, pour les fautes et pour harmoniser certains mots.
Pour la Sicile, effectivement, je devrais aussi le faire.
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Spoiler:
Hello guys ! Here is a new RIRSEI Dev Diary !
Today, we will speak about various mechanics about the Western Kingdoms that we eluded in former DDs , namely the Kingdoms of France and the various Spanish monarchies . This is a bit of a filler and not really themed DD, but we have to present thoses features at some point right ?
(Especially when one of them is what gave the name to the mod but I digress)
The Kingdom of France
The Kingdom of France is one of the major Kingdoms of western Europe. The mod thus added several new mechanics to it to better represent the various internal matters of the Kingdom.
First, a King, if he is at least 14 and that Reims is in the Kingdom, can be crowned in the "Sacre" of Reims . This mechanic is similar to the coronation mechanic of CK2+, however, it has (currently) only been added to the Kingdom of France, as the "Sacre" of the King was extremely important and symbolic for the Kingdom, more than in England , Danemark or Castille for exemple
(le sacre français est différent des autres cérémonies de couronnement, parce que le Roi n'est plus laïc, mais presque à mi-chemin entre le laïc et le prêtre : il communie sous les deux espèces, comme les clercs. Il ya aussi une dimension mystique du sacre, cfr les écrouelles : il est l'oint de dieu, il devient presque une personne sacrée. Le sacre du Roi de France a une importance qu'on ne retrouve pas ailleurs.)
.
If a King builds his authority and power strongly enough, he can proclaim that "The King is Emperor in his Realm" (Rex in Regno Suo Est Imperator, aka RIRSEI for those who haven't noticed). He will gain several strong bonuses and make it much more difficult for the Emperor to claim his title (we saw in the first DD that under specific conditions, the Emperor could lay claims on the Kingdom).
https://i.imgur.com/bQxMVKC.jpg
Historically, this proclamation was made by Phillip II "Augustus" of France.
(Alors c'est pas vraiment une "décision" dans la réalité, mais plusieurs faits similaires : en gros les juristes (souvent du sud de la France) ont attribués à Phiphi les qualités du Princeps du droit romain, et Innocent III a reconnu le fait qu'il dispose de la souveraineté temporelle totale, pour faire chier l'Empire en grande partie. Bien entendu, comme tu l'as dit cela souligne aussi sa capacité à faire fermer leur clapet aux grands vassaux. On peut rajouter le fait que le titre de "Auguste", même si "officiellement" est là pour souligner l'AUGmentation (c'est la même racine) du domaine royal et de la puissance de la couronne, est bien entendu un autre pied de nez à l'Empereur. Et bien entendu, élément très important, la victoire éclatante de Phiphi contre l'Empereur, à Bouvines, un dimanche. Y'a pas plus symbolique !)
He used the Roman Law to claim that since the Emperor's power was weak on France, while the power of the King was strong, the King had the same level of power than an Emperor in his realm, and thus the Emperor had no legitimacy whatsoever to lay claims on France.
(Je pense qu'il est bon de souligner que le royaume de France était dans une situation plus qu'ambiguë : sous Otton III, c'est assez clair que le royaume de France était considéré "sous tutelle" (ce qui est déjà bien vague). Les empereurs essayèrent ensuite à deux reprises -peut-être plus- de transformer cette "tutelle" qui devenait de plus en plus lointaine en quelque chose de plus directe, comme l'invasion d'Henri V ou la fameuse campagne de Bouvines)
This trait thus symbolise strenghtening powers of the French monarch and the weakening of the Empire's grasp on French interal affairs.
Furthermore, a King who proclaimed himself Emperor
(plutôt "Princeps" ou "Magistratus Principis" dans les textes, ca évite le terme "imperator" mais appuie bien sur la notion de souveraineté totale en renvoyant aux termes juridiques romains)
in his realm can himself lay claims on various regions whose De Jure alliegance is not clear enough between the Empire and the Kingdom. He can, for exemple, claim Lyon and Burgundy
(Prends plutôt l'exemple du Forez ou Bar, la Bourgogne est un cas un peu compliqué)
, and even add them to the De Jure demesne of France if the Emperor is weak or wants to discuss it. Historically, the King of France indeed tried to assert their sovereignity over theses
French-speaking (Non pas vraiment, c'est plus une question de possibilités juridiques pour chopper des territoires juste à coté, le Forez, on parlait langue d'oc par exemple)
lands which answered to the Emperor.
Also note that the cultures have been renamed to how they were historically named : the French culture is now the Langue d'oïl and the Occitan culture is now the Langue d'Oc (talking of "French" language in 900 AD is relatively wrong , what we now recognise as French will appear much later ).
Also, for the 769 start date, the major culture in France is now "Gallo Roman" . It is COMPLETLY wrong to put "Frankish" culture in 769 as French major culture. Nobody except the Frankish aristocracy spoke a word of Frankish language : not the people, not the bishops, etc. They spoke a popular Latin with some
Gaulic
(et encore ! )
accent, to put it simply. So now, the new culture is Gallo-Roman, in the Latin cultural group. But it can evolve with vanilla mechanic and becomme Langue d'Oïl/ d'Oc
The Kingdom of Aragon.
Historically, the Kingdom of Aragon was originally a small Duchy, based around Barcelona . But where this Duchy came from ?
(Oula, non, non, non. tu confonds le royaume d'Aragon et le Comté (et pas un duché) de Barcelone qui n'ont rien à voir juridiquement. Le royaume d'Aragon a co-existé un bon moment avec le Comté/Principat de Barcelone. Le Royaume d'Aragon est "juste" issu d'un partage entre les différents fils d'un super grand roi de Castille/léon/Navarre, sans doute un Sanche (mais je m'en souviens plus), et il donna la dignité royale à ses fils. Le Principat vient d'ailleurs, comme tu le dis plus bas)
You see, when Charlemagne invaded Spain, he set up the Marcha Hispanica, which later came to be under the authorithy of the Kingdom of France. However, during the rule of Hugues Capet, the ruling count was fighting a muslim invasion of his holdings. His pleas for help to his lord were not answered (Hugues was already enduring an invasion from the Emperor). He thus claimed that it was a breaking of the vassalage contract, and became independant.
(ETTTTTTT c'est là où ca se complique. Parce que en fait, "de jure", le Comté de Barcelone faisait toujours partie du royaume de France. Certains monastères continuaient de dater selon les régnes des capétiens, et même les Comtes ont mis en avant plusieurs fois cette très lointaine suzeraineté pour repousser les prétentions des autres rois espagnols. C'était un subterfuge très utile !)
(A noter que la France abandonna ses prétentions au traité de Corbeil, avant de les relancer de temps en temps)
In the mod, this is represented in the following way : the
Duke (COMTE)
of Barcelona is independant, but his territory belongs De Jure to France (as of 1066). However, if the
Duke (COMTE)
manages to claim the Aragonese crown in its entierety, he can proclaim his independance from France, integrating the French De Jure territory in Spain in his own.
https://i.imgur.com/rrSvGc7.jpg
(before)
https://i.imgur.com/ZaWJtlm.jpg
(after)
Juste pour dire, tu as traduit "Principat" par "Principality". Il fallait pas, car Principat est le mot catalan, sinon j'aurais mis "principauté" en français.
However, a powerful King of France can use his own jurists to gain claims on what was formerly part of his authority.
(Seulement sur ce qu'on appelle "els comtats" les Comtés, de ce côté-ci des Pyrénées, qui font partie de la Septimanie)
https://i.imgur.com/jRZlmiG.jpg
Spanish Kingdoms
The Kingdoms of Spains can get several specific bonuses, inspired by various title held by the Spanish Kings through history :
The King who controls Santiago de Composttella is the protector of the Relics of the famous Santiago Matamoros, giving him some bonuses .
https://i.imgur.com/LShgOJw.jpg
Also, as historically, a powerful, pious , and succesfull King in the Reconquista can ask for an official recognition of his merits by the Pope, gaining the title of Shield of Christendom, or Athleta Christi :
https://i.imgur.com/RNLcyAP.jpg
Thoses symbolises the prestige and the fame coming with such titles and characteristics, with all your neighbours looking at you with envy !
Also, like the cultures in France for the 769 start dates , the Visigothic culture has been wiped out of Spain . As the mod leader said somewhere "Nobody
(enfin des classes dominées !)
spoke a word of Visigothic language, expect maybe some 9 random guys in Toledo ". So the culture has been renamed "Ibero-Roman" and incorporated in the Latin cultural group.
(As a side note, since the Lombards had paradoxically a much more lasting influence in Italy than either the Visigothic or Frankish cultures, they were left as they are now :
(eeeeeh, en fait, il faudrait que je le fasse aussi pour les lombards, mais ca cause des soucis car la culture "italienne" existe déjà, donc faudrait que je modde plein de truc, donc flemme. Mais ca serait fait un jour
).
Also, on a totally unrelated note, a new commercial road has been added for the Western world !
http://images.akamai.steamuserconten...5841D59B46606/
It is the famous Northern Italian-Flandres road, the heart of the western medieval economy. You can now build trade posts (renamed "Fair") on it. But be carefull, there can only be 2 provinces (one for each "branch" of the road) with the last tier of trade post (the Great Fair, inspired by the famous Champagne fairs) .
With this road, having the control of the Flandres and Northern Italy is much more important, as historically.
That is all for today ! Have a nice day !
Credits : Faras, mod leader
Mouchi & Mat, slav... collaborators
And many other, who helped in a way or another
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07-07-2017, 21h05
Err, à ma défense, les events et décisions datant du début du mod (jusqu'à la MAJ musulmane) n'ont pas été traduits par moi , mais je corrigerais pour Principat
Merci pour tes corrections, je ferais le nécessaire
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08-07-2017, 09h04
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: Ah mea culpa alors :3 Merci pour ta correction alors.
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09-07-2017, 18h25
Les Valaques (Romani) terminés. Là en gros :
-Faire les mercos du coin
-Faire le bâtiment de ville orthodoxe/byzance
-Faire les mercos de Byzance
Puis là je ferais une petite pause : Je corrigerais les bugs + les textes.
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