Let's speak about the galaxy map

**AmeerNuub** · 21-08-2012, 13h48

I also think it is good to include all the core and most recognizable planets. Also, Empire at War, and Rebellion ("Supremecy" in Europe) have good choices for which ones ususally get selected when you can't have them all.

I think people will understand if the placement or canon is not 100% accurate... or if they don't and we want to accommodate them, of course that's fine too. But I'm sure this particular catagory is mostly the domain of Stilgar.

**Stilgar** · 21-08-2012, 13h57

Rebellion is called Rebellion in Europe, I never heard of Supremecy

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**AmeerNuub** · 21-08-2012, 14h03

Ahh, then it must only be a UK thing... political because it is reminiscent of America's "Rebellion" against them....

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:...n_(video_game)

**Stilgar** · 22-08-2012, 12h52

Good news for us, we can have as many sectors as we want without performance problems. So we have to look at this question from a gameplay point of view.

**AmeerNuub** · 23-08-2012, 12h28

I read the post from the other forum about your question. I think there may have been a misunderstanding. Planets are different than sectors. When you say you are making a mod with over 150 "planets", you actually mean "sectors". A "sector" is that same as a "solar system" - each different place we fly to when we go through a jump gate. What I read was that having multiple planets in a sector doen't slow down the game, but that many additional sectors absolutely would slow down the game.

**Stilgar** · 23-08-2012, 14h15

In fact, what the guy said is that performance is depending on what the game has to handle with. So what we need to consider is the number of scripts and what do they do, and how many elements (such as shipyard, automatic merchandising ships etc) the game must simulate.
So sectors and planets does not directly impact on game performances.

In the mean time if we look at others mods, or even vanilla, we see that 80 sectors is a commonly used number, I think I've seen much more for others mods but I not sure. So if we have a look at this map : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...OTOR_Quest.jpg (which is from KOTOR era), we can easily have many sectors with 2, or even 4 planets. It depends on the importance of each sectors. So with around 80-100 sectors we can easily include a important part of the galaxy.

But I think we need to work in a few steps
- 1 : saying which are the important planets that we can not miss
- 2 : others importants planets
---- Make a point and counts how many ----
- 3 : searching for some interesant planets to add
--- Making the galaxy in the mod ---

Then we will have remaining planets to add for further versions of the mod. That will give us time to test if additionnal planets/sectors will make the mod being slow or not.

X3 AP galaxy map has around 200 sectors (haven't exactly counted : http://www.argonopedia.org/wiki/X%C2...on_Prelude/Map)

**Stilgar** · 25-08-2012, 11h58

After some searchs I think this map is the most complete we may have : (except maybe from Star Wars Essential Atlas)
http://blackhole.holocom.org/vrac/cartes_SW/global.jpg

Spoiler:

Also here are some planets that are major at this time :
- Alderaan (destructed)
- Bastion
- Bespin
- Bestine
- Bothawi
- Caamas
- Coruscant
- Corellia
- Dagobah
- Daantoine
- Endor
- Hoth
- Kessel
- Naboo
- Taanab
- Tatooine
- Yaga Minor
- Yavin
- Yavin IV

**AmeerNuub** · 30-08-2012, 14h03

Well I think to start, some of the most important ones to probably include to the ones you have listed are:

Kashyyyk
Sullust
Mon Calamari
Bakura
Nal Hutta
Rishi
Ord Mantell
Kuat
Geonosis
Fondor
Ryloth

Other than that, I would guess the safest bet on which pool of names to choose from would be the ones included in all the previous Star Wars games we have played.

From Empire at War:

Abregado-Rae
Aeten II
Alzoc III
Anaxes
Atzerri8
Bonadan
Byss
Carida
Corulag
Eriadu
Fondor
Fresia
Ilum
Jabiim
Korriban
Manaan
Polus
Shola
Taris
Thyferra
Vergesso Asteroids
Wayland

From SW Rebellion:

Abrion sector

• Abregado-rae
• Cathar
• Da Soocha
• Galpos II*
• Garban*
• Hefi*
• Hishyim*
• Intuci*
• Tieos*
• Ukio*

Atrivis sector

• Despayre
• Fedje
• Generis*
• Moltok
• Nam'ta
• Spefik
• Tibrin
• Togoria
• Trammis
• Zeffliffl

Calaron sector

• Akrit'tar*
• F'tral*
• Fwillsving*
• Ithor
• Jerijador*
• Kubindi*
• Morvogodine*
• Norval II*
• Skor II

Churba sector

• Allyuen
• Anoat
• Deyer
• Gentes
• Lelmra*
• New Cov*
• Storthus*
• Tokmia

Corellian sector

• Commenor
• Corfai
• Drall*
• Duro*
• Selonia*
• Talus*
• Tralus*
• Vagran
• Xyquine II

Dolomar sector

• Balfron*
• Caprioril
• Kamparas*
• Ketaris
• Omwat
• Pantolomin*
• Phorliss*
• Sarka
• Tangrene*
• Wor Tandell*

Dufilvian sector

• Algarian
• Filve*
• Gamorr
• Klatooine
• Ord Mantell
• Ord Pardron*
• Ord Trasi*
• Toprawa
• Zebitrope IV

Fakir sector

• Ando
• Berchest
• Bimmisaari
• Carida
• Delaya
• Halowan*
• Mrisst*
• Obroa-skai
• Palanhi*
• Ralltiir

Farrfin sector

• Bilbringi
• Byss (Outer Rim Territories)
• Charmath*
• Firro*
• Khomm
• Kinyen*
• Phraetiss*
• Rishi
• Wistril*

Glythe sector

• Altarrn*
• Arkania
• Elrood
• Fef*
• Fornax*
• Nentan*
• Sedri
• Valrar*
• Vortex*
• Yag'Dhul

Jospro sector

• Azbrian
• Cardooine*
• Chrondre
• Dar'Or*
• Douglas III
• Engira
• Jomark
• Kiffex
• Trogan*
• Waskiro*

Kanchen sector

• Culroon III*
• Davnar II*
• Derra IV*
• Mindor
• Munto Codru
• Nal Hutta
• Smarteel*
• Spuma
• Vodran
• Xa Fel*

Mayagil sector

• Anchoron
• Chalcedon*
• Clak'dor VII*
• Cona
• H'nemthe*
• Kabal*
• Öetrago*
• Triton*
• Urdur*

Moddell sector

• Adega
• Agrilat
• Annaj*
• Basilisk
• Gandolo IV
• Hosrel XI
• Khuiumin
• Pzob
• Vjun

Orus sector

• Bakura
• Chazwa*
• Daltarra
• Joiol*
• Kimanan*
• Lafra*
• Mantessa*
• Poderis*
• Ryloth

Quelii sector

• Amorris*
• Corstris*
• Dathomir*
• Kirrek
• Pil Diller*
• Rafa V
• Selaggis*
• Thrakia
• Varn*
• Vinsoth*

Seswenna sector

• Averam
• Balmorra
• Bortras
• Chandrila
• Corsin
• Ghorman
• Svivren
• Uvena*

Sluis sector

• Bpfassh*
• Denab*
• Kothlis
• Mon Calamari
• Orto*
• Praesitlyn*
• Sluis Van*
• Sullust
• Umgul

Sumitra sector

• Alk'lellish III*
• Boordii*
• Flax*
• Geedon V
• Kashyyyk
• Linuri*
• Qat Chrystac
• Tierfon*
• Woostri

Xappyh sector

• Ambria
• G'rho
• Kirdo III*
• Neelgaimon*
• Norulac
• Ruuria
• Stic*
• Thanta Zilbra
• Thila
• Tund

**Stilgar** · 30-08-2012, 14h10

Attention, because SW maps is a non sense. That's not realistic, look at the map I sent you it's one of the best and it's updated with the new officials contents.
The other problem of Rebellion is that it is using sectors as if they were around a sun/star however in "reality" these planets have their own suns. When you read some wikia you discover that the number of planets is really high and that the planets we have heard about, we heard about because they were important. That means two planets close in the map may be "using" two different stars.

**AmeerNuub** · 30-08-2012, 14h39

Yes, I understand.

I was not suggesting those other lists as a list to conform to... rather I said it was a list we could pick and choose individual planets from, if we wanted to use ones we liked and remember from past beloved games.

As stated, the only ones I think should definitely be added to your list were from the first important group I included... as for the rest, I really am not too invested and am fine with whatever anyone else would like.

**Stilgar** · 10-09-2012, 17h33

Big update of the first post. I've done 65-70% of the listing work.

**AmeerNuub** · 11-09-2012, 12h47

Envoyé par Stilgar Voir le message

Big update of the first post. I've done 65-70% of the listing work.

It looks like these are still missing:

Kashyyyk
Mon Calamari
Rishi
Ord Mantell
Geonosis
Ryloth

I don't know if it is an oversight, or if there is a reason for not including them, but I'm pretty sure most people would think they are very important planets to include. I'm only thinking of their popularity, importance, and public insistance for their inclusion. I can imagine some reasons to not include them; practicality or they don't resemble their placement on the "real" map, or other reasons. But again, I don't think many people would care for those reasons above the negative of not having included planets like Kashyyyk, Geonosis, Mon Calamari, etc. I personally really don't care much, but am only thinking about what I'm pretty sure people would want, and that is a big factor, since the mod is not only being made for you and me...

**Stilgar** · 11-09-2012, 12h56

I'm proceeding sectors by sectors (it's really loong), that's why some planets are not in the list. The 65/70% say that I've made searchs for 65/70% map and that 30 is still waiting. However the first post is not updated with my work of last night. I'll do that later

That's a "WIP" thread

**AmeerNuub** · 11-09-2012, 13h21

Hehehehe... I see. Well that's some good work, for sure.

Right now I'm in the process of going through each of the ship files to record the text references to all the textures. Very large and tedious...

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